Speaker A So with these various dissertations being done at George Washington over the years, there had to be other faculty members on the committees. And I just wondered the reaction of these other faculty or how these ideas spread, if at all, or what the attitude of these other faculty who served on the committees might have been.
Speaker B Well.
Speaker C There are two things that happen.
Speaker D The faculty members who the one who.
Speaker C Supervised Sergey's dissertation came and took my.
Speaker B Class.
Speaker D So he could learn something about Elliot.
Speaker B Now, why he was not threatened, I can't tell you.
Speaker E But he was just enthralled with he's an engineer.
Speaker C Engineers like this, I think, was just enthralled by it.
Speaker D And so he read several books by Elliot.
Speaker C He would not be an expert by any eric Winslow was Sandy King's advisor.
Speaker B Eric is willing to try any new.
Speaker E Idea.
Speaker F And.
Speaker B I don't know why.
Speaker D That's something I haven't figured out. But all of the dissertations were supervised by one dissertation. Where I was on the committee was.
Speaker B By a guy named Ken Allen in.
Speaker C The School of Education. And David Schwant supervised his dissertation.
Speaker B David had Elliot.
Speaker C As a visitor in their doctoral program. And so David had heard Elliot on a number of occasions and enthralled by Elliot.
Speaker E And by the way, they have a new facility out in Northern Virginia where.
Speaker D The major meeting room is the Elliot Jacks room.
Speaker F And.
Speaker C David was just totally enthralled.
Speaker D All of them were supervised by people.
Speaker C Who are either open to remarkably new.
Speaker E Ideas.
Speaker F And are not threatened by them.
Speaker C And are also very right, or in Elliot's terms, the upper is strata.
Speaker A Did you mention David Schwartz?