Speaker A It was an extraordinary partnership because they were complementary. Elliot, the rather introverted psycho analytic background psychiatry before then, a brilliant young doctor and social scientist who came over to Britain at the end of the war and was a founder member of the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations. Wilfred Brown, an industrial manager and owner of Great Idealism who had already, before meeting Elliot, pioneered works council in his factory and was ready to try all kinds of radical new ideas intellectually. They met and collaborate and complemented each other and they worked together in that way for, let's see, from the mid, from the late 1940s to sometime in the 1960s, after which Wilfred Brand left Glassy metal effectively to go as a junior minister in the Then government. And I get the impression, well, certainly the collaboration then wasn't as active, although they kept a strong link until Wilfred Brown's death years later. Such conditions and such a partnership of two men rarely arises.
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